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TECHNICAL MOTOBRICK WRENCHING In Remembrance of Inge K. => Project Custom Motobricks => Topic started by: Jon72 on February 18, 2023, 11:57:25 AM
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I bought a 1995 k1100lt and am in the process of building a cafe racer I need to know what I need to keep in the bike for it to run I will be using a m-unit blue for lighting and controls I'm just not sure about what inputs the ucu needs
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That's a K1100LT, not a K1100RS.
See the bottom of Page 4 here:
http://www.kbikeparts.com/classickbikes.com/ckb.tech/0.ckb.tech.files/kwiring/K1100LT.94on/1994.K1100LT.Wiring.SLP.V2.0.pdf
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So if I supply power to the 15 pin and power the fuel pump it should run?
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The brown/blue wire from the side stand switch needs to be grounded to that the Motronic relay sends power to Pin 33 of the Motronic.
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Will I need power supplied to the green and green black going to the coils and injectors
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Hi Jon, I’m also doing an LT (1998) using an munit blue.
I have a wiring diagram made up where I’m only keeping the engine management loom, i.e. motronic plug to the sensors and injectors and such. The rest will be hand made.
If it works and I can get it running soon I’ll let you know and I can send it to you if you want.
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I would greatly appreciate it
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The handle bars and rear sets came starting to build
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What bars are you using and which bar controls are you planning to use? I’m going to run clip ons and have 2 3 button motogadget controls. It’s my first time working on a bike in this way so I’m not sure where I would get a throttle from since the original has buttons integrated. Do you have an email address I can send the wiring diagrams to? Sorry not had chance to test it yet, way too freezing in the uk for me at the moment.
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I also have 2 3button controls my email is jonathandonnelly72@gmail.com
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I'll be running just a basic cable throttle and the handlebars I got are from cafe4racer.eu they're bolt on as well
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Ok I have the motogadget wired up and I'm not getting spark any ideas
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Is the side stand up?
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There's no safety switches hooked up right now they're all bypassed
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It's really hard to give you advice since we have no clue what you've kept and what you've discarded from the original loom in your effort to switch to the Motogadget.
The spark comes from the ICU. You'll need switched power, ground, HES inputs, and start button signal. Have you got those?
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I think I have all of those I can get it to fire and stay running for under a minute then it dies out I'm thinking oil pressure switch or coolant temp since those aren't hooked up I don't know where to run them to
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Are you absolutely sure the fuel pump isn't dropping out when you release the start button. I say this because the fuel system holds enough fuel to run the engine for about a minute at idle without the pump.
You might want to get a fuel pressure gauge to see what the the pressure is doing in the rail after the engine starts. I think you can borrow or rent one at AutoZone.
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I just replaced the fuel pump and cut the wire and am holding it on the battery to guarantee the pump is running
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Does the iol pressure switch need to go to the icu
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The oil pressure switch just lights up the idiot light on the cluster to let you know there is no pressure. It has nothing to do with the operation of the engine.
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What else would be causing short run time HES?
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What might be helpful is for you to post clearly legible diagrams, with wire color labels, sufficiently large enough to show all wiring connections—and their sources—for input and output at the Motogadget instrument and M-unit. Was this video your inspiration?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ohnctG68Ktg (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ohnctG68Ktg)
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This is how it's wired except I don't have a dash the fan isn't hooked up yet and the fuel pump is direct and the hand controls are wired using a mo button
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How about showing the Motronic pin numbers for each wire?
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I'm not sure where I would get that information
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Probably not your problem, I mention this only cause I had the same problem, it would idle for about one minute, then stop. Eventually I replaced the fuel injection computer and it was problem solved. But it was probably just dirty connections. Clean the motronic connections, and other connectors too. There was a thread about this somewhere.
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How about showing the Motronic pin numbers for each wire?I'm not sure where I would get that information
You'd get that information from the drawings at the link frankenduck posted in Reply #1 of this thread.
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Alright there was a few problems and I'm getting much closer to a solution the fuel lines were backwards and injector 3 had a loose connection
What cycles the injectors on and off
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The Motronic Control Unit under the seat.
Click on the link at the bottom of this post (https://www.motobrick.com/index.php?topic=13441.0) to download an illustrated document to help you understand how your Brick's Motronic engine management system works. This and other BMW training documents are significant contributions to the knowledge base here made by member Volador, who is likely flying somewhere and using the opportunity to find fish to conquer.
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It's running good now
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Can you sum up what you did to make it start running good, Jon?
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Powerbrick posted their wirediagram a few days ago.
(https://i.ibb.co/9Gm27zK/BMW-K1100-RS-1994-MO-UNIT-ULTIMATE-WIRING-DIAGRAM.jpg) (https://ibb.co/9Gm27zK)