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Title: Spiegler brake lines for K75C 1986
Post by: foliver on April 30, 2021, 12:38:49 PM
Hello all

My bike is a K75C 1986 usa model ( non abs, rear drum brake)
I need new front brake lines, and spiegler seems to be good.
In their online catalog they don't have a kit for 1986, but for 1988-1990, it seems ok to me, and i think the K75C has never been changed, but i would like to hear your opinions...

https://spieglerusa.com/bmw-k-75-c-front-brake-line-kit-k-75-c-s-bm0017.html

Any other brand that can be less expensive but good?

Thanks for your opinions!

Fabian
Title: Re: Spiegler brake lines for K75C 1986
Post by: Laitch on April 30, 2021, 01:05:55 PM
Unless you're the original owner, there's no telling if the brakes have been modified by previous owners until you inspect them. Email Spiegler asking them how to measure the brake lines, then go line-by-line collecting the measurements. Send them to Spiegler and ask if they have a kit that fits those measurements; if they don't, they'll fabricate some.

Rear brake line length was changed by BMW when a section of metal brake line was removed. Sometimes front calipers receive fluid by separate lines from a Y-pipe; sometimes they receive fluid via a direct line from the master cylinder to one of the calipers then through a metal pipe bridging the fender from that caliper to the other.
Title: Re: Spiegler brake lines for K75C 1986
Post by: boxer.randy on April 30, 2021, 10:19:20 PM
Last year I ordered Speigler lines for my 92 S . The lines were short. 92 was a changeover year. Talked to them , measured the old lines and told them what I needed and the proper fittings. Received another set - no charge. Fit perfectly. A superb company to deal with.
Title: Re: Spiegler brake lines for K75C 1986
Post by: foliver on May 01, 2021, 12:31:16 AM
Hi Laitch and Randy, I'll follow your suggestions, it's the safest way

Thanks!!
Title: Re: Spiegler brake lines for K75C 1986
Post by: stokester on May 01, 2021, 02:50:18 PM
Last year I ordered Speigler lines for my 92 S . The lines were short. 92 was a changeover year. Talked to them , measured the old lines and told them what I needed and the proper fittings. Received another set - no charge. Fit perfectly. A superb company to deal with.
Agree, Spiegler is the way to go.
I received a 50% off a set of brake pads from Spiegler at a rally a number of years ago.
Called them up with the coupon number, ordered the brake pads and a set of SS brake lines for my '93 K75S w/ABS.  Very impressed with the quality of the lines and CL pads.


Title: Re: Spiegler brake lines for K75C 1986
Post by: Wirelic on May 01, 2021, 05:42:06 PM
I put Spengler lines on some of my bikes.  Per their instructions, I just took off the lines and fittings and mailed them to Spengler.  They shipped my old stuff back along with perfect fitting new lines.  Pretty easy.
Title: Re: Spiegler brake lines for K75C 1986
Post by: frankenduck on May 02, 2021, 12:37:28 AM
Spiegler, schmeegler.

https://b.link/BitchinBrakes

Title: Re: Spiegler brake lines for K75C 1986
Post by: Wirelic on May 02, 2021, 08:23:20 AM
Drake, that’s about what I did.  I just used a double banjo bolt right at the front master cylinder and ran 2 Spengler stainless steel braided lines, one to each caliper.  Brakes are much improved and have been working flawlessly since 2011.
Title: Re: Spiegler brake lines for K75C 1986
Post by: Laitch on May 02, 2021, 09:32:38 AM
Drake, that’s about what I did. 
What Drake described is not exactly close to what you did if you ran a separate line to each caliper. There is only one line from the master cylinder.

Please post some photos of your setup. It seems unique.
Title: Re: Spiegler brake lines for K75C 1986
Post by: Wirelic on May 02, 2021, 03:55:27 PM
It’s not unique at all.  I purchased a double banjo bolt from Spiegler and used it with 3 crush washers at the front master cylinder.  Two lines attached, each running to one of the front calipers.  Super simple.  I did it to eliminate the problems I was experiencing getting the air out. I’ve bleed hundreds of brake systems, but this particle one had an issue.  I’d tried everything else and decided this was the way to solve it.  And it did.   It’s worked beautifully ever since 10 years now.  Really nothing to take pictures of. 
Title: Re: Spiegler brake lines for K75C 1986
Post by: Laitch on May 02, 2021, 04:04:04 PM
It’s not unique at all.
Please post a photo of it.
Title: Re: Spiegler brake lines for K75C 1986
Post by: Wirelic on May 02, 2021, 04:17:51 PM
It’ll be a while.  Bike isn’t out of storage yet.
Title: Re: Spiegler brake lines for K75C 1986
Post by: natalena on May 13, 2021, 09:54:58 AM
It’ll be a while.  Bike isn’t out of storage yet.
Is this the extension bolt you installed? Available for less than $10.00
Title: Re: Spiegler brake lines for K75C 1986
Post by: Wirelic on May 13, 2021, 10:06:31 AM
I got mine directly from Speigler to match their banjo bolts.  If anyone is actually interested in doing the double line, May I suggest just contacting Speigler directly by phone.  They are very helpful, fully knowledgeable and ready to assist.  And then the entire system of lines and fittings is matched. 
Title: Re: Spiegler brake lines for K75C 1986
Post by: natalena on May 13, 2021, 10:18:57 AM
Pulled the image from Speigler, so they're available if needed.
I'm missing something, even with a non compressible fluid, it seems like the stock MC wouldn't move enough volume to actuate both brake piston sets with authority. How's the "feel" of the brakes?
Title: Re: Spiegler brake lines for K75C 1986
Post by: Wirelic on May 13, 2021, 08:29:12 PM
They feel fine and stop very good.  I think I made that change in 2011, so it’s been 10 years working just fine.  Sorry I don’t have a pic, but just talk to the guys at Speigler.  Tell them what you want to accomplish and they set you up with everything you need.  Just to be sure, I sent in my old brake lines to them.