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Title: Rear Main Seal Driver Alternatives?
Post by: rkildu on November 22, 2011, 10:32:22 PM
As part of my currently underway spline lube, it looks like I will be replacing the rear main seal. I have the seal on order and should have in a few days.
I have a tech bulletin #2798 that shows a special driver to insert the seal leaving a 0.5 mm of the new seal sticking out. I am used to driving seal in flush and can handle that, this is more difficult.

Has anyone come up with an alternative tool to do this?

Thanks
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Rod Kilduff
97 K1100LT HighLine
82 R100Lufty
Title: Re: Rear Main Seal Driver Alternatives?
Post by: Rick G on November 22, 2011, 11:13:01 PM
I have always used an aftermarket seal which is 2mm narrower than standard and heaps cheaper. I put it in flush and have never had a problem.
Title: Re: Rear Main Seal Driver Alternatives?
Post by: G.Kennedy on November 23, 2011, 12:33:55 AM
I used the stock seal and a large socket and hammer to drive it in. When it looked like It was sticking out about .5 mil it stopped. Never has dripped a drop. I wasn't to critical about it.
Title: Re: Rear Main Seal Driver Alternatives?
Post by: rbm on November 23, 2011, 10:11:01 PM
I had to replace the main seal on my K100RS.  I used a BMW seal even though a serviceable aftermarket one was available.  I used a block of wood and plastic mallet to drive in the seal.  I tapped gently and continuously around the perimeter of the seal, making sure all the time that the seal was being driven in evenly.  When I came close to the 0.5mm proud stage, I used calipers to measure the protrusion.  I wanted to be as accurate as possible. Time efficiency was not a concern so having the proper tool would have been faster but not more accurate. I got a quote from a local machine shop to turn a proper tool from plastic and it was expensive; hence the block of wood method.
Title: Re: Rear Main Seal Driver Alternatives?
Post by: rkildu on November 24, 2011, 08:55:54 PM
I've been thinking about this.  I have the specs on the driver but I don't have a lathe or any metal working equipment. I do have a wood shop,  still no lathe, and have been thinking about trying to make something out of hard wood.  I can cut round pieces on the band saw and make everything except the 0.5 mm relief.  I think I can make up some shims to glue around the edges, it doesn't have to be a complete circle, out of metal can stock.  After all,  it only has to work once.

Thanks

Rod
Title: Re: Rear Main Seal Driver Alternatives?
Post by: rbm on November 26, 2011, 12:20:40 AM
I think I can make up some shims to glue around the edges,
How about using several pan head wood screws?  Select an example with a head thickness of exactly 0.5mm.  Take twenty or so of them and drive them into your wooden tool around the periphery spaced slightly apart until you have a complete circle of them.
Title: Re: Rear Main Seal Driver Alternatives?
Post by: rkildu on November 26, 2011, 03:07:17 PM
Here is my home made bearing driver.  I think it will work,  I'll let you know.

(http://i241.photobucket.com/albums/ff116/rkildu/KOG%20logo/IMG_0118.jpg)

(http://i241.photobucket.com/albums/ff116/rkildu/KOG%20logo/IMG_0119.jpg)

(http://i241.photobucket.com/albums/ff116/rkildu/KOG%20logo/IMG_0120.jpg)

Rod
Title: Re: Rear Main Seal Driver Alternatives?
Post by: rkildu on November 26, 2011, 08:17:16 PM
I am pleased to report that my creation worked like a champ!  When I removed the old seal it started dripping oil, so I had to install the new one immediately.  I got the new seal started evenly all around with a rubber mallet, switched to the seal driver and drove it home. It has a nice even lip protruding as intended.  It's a good thing I had it ready.

Now I can start putting the darned thing back together!

Rod
Title: Re: Rear Main Seal Driver Alternatives?
Post by: Rick G on November 26, 2011, 09:40:31 PM
Now thats what I call good thinking and ingenuity. Top shot.
Title: Re: Rear Main Seal Driver Alternatives?
Post by: tsbt on June 20, 2012, 05:42:38 PM
Here is my home made bearing driver.  I think it will work,  I'll let you know.
(http://i241.photobucket.com/albums/ff116/rkildu/KOG%20logo/IMG_0118.jpg)

Hey Rod, how did you get the old one out? Mine's pretty stuck I think the sealant is mega-stuck. Did you use sealant when you put back in a new one in?

Chris
Title: Re: Rear Main Seal Driver Alternatives?
Post by: Photog on June 20, 2012, 07:18:00 PM
A seal puller, it hooks under the lip of the seal and pops it right out.

This is the one I used;
http://www.lislecorp.com/divisions/products/?product=358&division=1&category=7 (http://www.lislecorp.com/divisions/products/?product=358&division=1&category=7)

A good auto parts store should have one.

No sealant needed, just make sure the surfaces are clean and drive the new one in.

Title: Rear Main Seal Driver Alternatives?
Post by: Duc750 on June 21, 2012, 02:14:13 AM
Mine just disentegrated using a seal puller but was still stuck fast! In the end I used a slide hammer (or a home brew version)

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