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Title: New to the Forum and the Brick
Post by: Trash Hauler on March 04, 2020, 04:35:35 PM
Hi

A friend bought a 1985 K100 brick for a cafe racer project however it proved a little beyond him ....... he had sold the fairings, purchased headlight, LED indicators and a u frame for the cafe racer seat, but that was about it. I offered to take over the project for his costs to date and now I have a Brick.

At present just planning the project and then will start the full strip. Aiming for something like the attached as the finished product.

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Title: Re: New to the Forum and the Brick
Post by: johnny on March 04, 2020, 06:08:19 PM
greetings...

poast up some photos of your brick... we wanna see it...

i built this custom out of a pristine one owner low mile unit... delooped it and sold it for $16,000 usd...

last i head the new owner had thrown it in a dumpster cause he relooped it then could not start it...


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Title: Re: New to the Forum and the Brick
Post by: Trash Hauler on March 04, 2020, 06:32:27 PM
Hi Johnny - you created a work of art. How sad that someone trashed it.

The design inspires me and hope I can make something similar to what you created.

TH
Title: Re: New to the Forum and the Brick
Post by: johnny on March 04, 2020, 06:44:59 PM
greetings...

go getts some sallsall blades and a chep3 and higher credit card limit...

poast some photos of your brick... we wanna see it...

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Title: Re: New to the Forum and the Brick
Post by: Trash Hauler on March 04, 2020, 07:00:13 PM
Picking up on Monday - will post picks then.

As for credit limit .......   :johnny

Cheers

TH
Title: Re: New to the Forum and the Brick
Post by: Trash Hauler on March 10, 2020, 04:42:37 AM
This is the machine

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Title: Re: New to the Forum and the Brick
Post by: billday on March 10, 2020, 12:02:42 PM
For some reason it makes me less sad when it's an RT.
Title: Re: New to the Forum and the Brick
Post by: Laitch on March 10, 2020, 12:07:22 PM
i built this custom out of a pristine one owner low mile unit... delooped it and sold it for $16,000 usd...
Ingenious use of a cowboy boot for the seat.  112350
Title: Re: New to the Forum and the Brick
Post by: johnny on March 10, 2020, 12:08:31 PM
greetings...

how much for the hemorrhoid hanging off the bung...


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Title: Re: New to the Forum and the Brick
Post by: Trash Hauler on March 11, 2020, 03:33:33 AM
Sorry Johnny - fairings, tragkorbs and topbox are already sold
Title: Re: New to the Forum and the Brick
Post by: Past-my-Prime on March 11, 2020, 02:52:36 PM
Sorry Johnny - fairings, tragkorbs and topbox are already sold
How about all of the fairing parts at the front end?

Asking because I'm curious, not because I'm buying!
Title: Re: New to the Forum and the Brick
Post by: Laitch on March 11, 2020, 02:58:02 PM
How about all of the fairing parts at the front end? Asking because I'm curious, not because I'm buying!
The first post informs us that the fairings were sold before TrashHauler purchased the moto. I'm answering not because I care but because I'm practicing syntax.
Title: Re: New to the Forum and the Brick
Post by: Past-my-Prime on March 11, 2020, 03:10:05 PM
And yet there they are, in the photograph, as big as life!!

I guess knowing that they may be going to revitalize someone's "bring it back to original state" dream, rather than a bin somewhere, is a bit comforting for those of us who like to keep it original.

I wonder if syntax is better with the negative before the positive or the other way around.
Title: Re: New to the Forum and the Brick
Post by: volador on March 11, 2020, 03:17:49 PM
I wonder if syntax is better with the negative before the positive or the other way around.
my therapist said depends if you're an optimist or pessimist
Title: Re: New to the Forum and the Brick
Post by: Laitch on March 11, 2020, 03:21:46 PM
And yet there they are, in the photograph, as big as life!!
Certainly, reading can be bothersome.  :laughing4-giggles:
Title: Re: New to the Forum and the Brick
Post by: MIbrick on March 11, 2020, 06:43:33 PM
I wonder if syntax is better with the negative before the positive or the other way around.

I think negative before positive, because current travels towards the negative while charge travels away. If you don't have any electrons in motion, no current, no voltage. The electron surplus starts out on the negative terminal, then they flow to the positive. Thus, negative first, most especially in syntax. Right?

Now, with that settled, what does "deloop" mean in the context of bricks?
Title: Re: New to the Forum and the Brick
Post by: K1300S on March 11, 2020, 08:22:23 PM
I think negative before positive, because current travels towards the negative while charge travels away. If you don't have any electrons in motion, no current, no voltage. The electron surplus starts out on the negative terminal, then they flow to the positive. Thus, negative first, most especially in syntax. Right?

Now, with that settled, what does "deloop" mean in the context of bricks?
the first and sometimes only thing wannabee cappuccino racers do to a brick to try to make a huge heavy german bike look like a small bore british bike.  it is the amputation of the metal frame "loop" behind the seat.
Title: Re: New to the Forum and the Brick
Post by: Past-my-Prime on March 11, 2020, 08:25:42 PM
the first and sometimes only thing wannabee cappuccino racers do to a brick to try to make a huge heavy german bike look like a small bore british bike.  it is the amputation of the metal frame "loop" behind the seat.
Otherwise known as "easy way to make an eminently rideable bike unrideable".  It stops being what it was designed to be, instead best described as a fashion accessory.
I expect my bias is obvious.
Title: Re: New to the Forum and the Brick
Post by: Trash Hauler on April 02, 2020, 03:16:41 AM
Well ..... the project has started. Cleaned out the garages d started stripping. Frame ready for separation from engine / drive train.
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Title: Re: New to the Forum and the Brick
Post by: Skunky on April 03, 2020, 10:14:48 AM
Hi Trash Hauler. Looks like you have a good project on your hands. Despite some of the negative comments from the purist's, you will find this site a wealth of information. There are plenty of good and bad custom projects here and any of the problems that you come across (and there will be plenty) have been solved here before. 
Some of the guys here have owned and ridden K bikes for ever and some of them are even helpful  :laughing1:.
Completing my build was a lot easier because of this resource.
So welcome aboard and good luck.

By the way when they refer to de-looping they mean the complete removal of the rear end and either chopping or replacing with a short hoop at the rear end. Like yours  :johnny
Title: Re: New to the Forum and the Brick
Post by: Trash Hauler on April 03, 2020, 06:50:01 PM
Thanks Skunky - I really happened on to this project by chance but I am glad I did. I have always liked the variation in cafe racers and when a friend asked to give him a hand with his K100 I discovered they are some of the best and varied examples out there. I offered to take it off his hands and now I have the project and having a ball.

I have already found the site very helpful.

TH
Title: Re: New to the Forum and the Brick
Post by: volador on April 03, 2020, 08:34:24 PM
Good looking moto for your project. You should start a project thread under the Project Custom Motobricks (http://www.motobrick.com/index.php/board,38.0.html)

When you de-loop the moto your downunder neighbor (http://www.motobrick.com/index.php/topic,13444.msg119924.html#msg119924) is collecting the unwanted frame tubing for his new hobby

Good luck with your project

some info about your moto

Notable differences of the pre-85/86 K100 are the seat pan design with matching tail cowl section, the water/oil pump design changed, throttle cable design and fuel tank/fuel level sender/fuel return check valve.

Your 8/84 may have the European "hotter" cams known as "Finest Year K"

http://www.motobrick.com/index.php/topic,3653.msg56782.html#msg56782

https://forums.bmwmoa.org/showthread.php?4534-Why-is-the-85-K100-the-quot-Finest-Year-K-quot&s=66f149b3cadea44550d51fbf0b9ee793&p=42512&viewfull=1#post42512

The pre-1985/86 has molded pillion handles as part of the seat pan, metal or plastic seat pan.
Post-1985/86 removed handles from seat pan and added handles to the tail cowl section.

http://www.bmwkbike.dx.am/CLseats/kbikeseats.htm

Water Pump
pre-1986-87? original design old style impeller 11411461177

Superseded by 11412325850 design change the shaft with gear Z=32 teeth, shaft- 11411461183

Superseded by 11417676366 same shaft with gear Z=32 teeth

latest design 11517676371 design change shaft with gear Z=19 teeth, shaft- 11411461793

Throttle cables have 2 versions and lower brackets. Cable lengths vary with handlebars.
#1 version- have a adjustment sleeve approx. halfway down length
2nd version black plastic collar at the lower end or a white plastic collar

Pre-1985 fuel tank has a rear mounting tab later removed.
Early fuel lever sender is a thermistor type later is a float type.
http://www.kforum-tech.com/how-to/Modification%20for%20early%20gas%20tank.htm
Good Riding
Title: Re: New to the Forum and the Brick
Post by: Trash Hauler on April 03, 2020, 10:03:26 PM
Thanks volador - Fantastic information and help.
Title: Re: New to the Forum and the Brick
Post by: volador on April 03, 2020, 11:08:41 PM
Some links for your K journey to take advantage of this extra time at hand

Check parts compatibility with BMW MAX Microfiche, BOBS BMW, REAL OEM

https://shop.maxbmw.com/fiche/PartsFiche.aspx

https://shop.maxbmw.com/fiche/PartsSearch.aspx

https://parts.maxbmw.com/BMW___BmwMotorradK.html

https://www.bobsbmw.com/store/microfiche/BrowseSeries.aspx

https://www.realoem.com/bmw/select.do?kind=M&arch=1

https://www.ascycles.com/BMW-Motorcycle-Parts-Fiche

Cross reference parts like Bosch pn#'s, etc....  http://partsplusecat.com/
No spaces in the part number

Parts Vendors

https://www.beemerboneyard.com/

https://www.capitalcycle.com/

https://www.euromotoelectrics.com/

https://www.tills.de/

Headlight relay stuff if you chose to add one

https://www.motobrick.com/index.php?topic=268.0

http://www.motobrick.com/index.php/topic,4962.msg30932.html

http://culayer.com/product/matchbox-headlight-relay/

http://easternbeaver.com/Main/Wiring_Kits/H4_Kits/h4_kits.html
 Eastern Beaver site is a great reference for electrical connectors,plugs, etc...

http://www.k100-forum.com/

http://www.kforum-tech.com/Tech-page.html

http://www.kforum-tech.com/electrical/EFI/bike-wont-start-EN.htm

http://www.kforum-tech.com/Downloads/electrical/diagrams/interactive_diagrams.htm

http://www.kbikeparts.com/classickbikes.com/ckb.tech/0.ckb.tech.files/k100tshoot/K100.Troubleshoot.Start.2018.pdf

http://kbikeparts.com/index.htm

http://www.kbikeparts.com/classickbikes.com/ckb.tech/ckb.new2k.htm

http://www.kbikeparts.com/classickbikes.com/ckb.tech/ckb.tech.toc.htm

http://www.eilenberger.net/K75S/IgnitionSwitch/

http://www.verrill.com/moto/moto.shtml

this site has a lot of good info and breakdown pictures in the tech and tech resources sections for K1100 alot of the parts are on K75 & K100

http://www.k11og.org/forum/index.php?sid=2df953dde5715fd9001fbe69edec5ad0

https://ibmwr.org/index.php/k-bike-tech-articles/

This site has all kinds of technical specifications on all the BMW models    http://www.bmbikes.co.uk/mechanicalpages/kseriesmechanical.htm

http://largiader.com
Title: Re: New to the Forum and the Brick
Post by: Trash Hauler on April 05, 2020, 07:29:14 PM
volador - fantastic help.