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TECHNICAL MOTOBRICK WRENCHING In Remembrance of Inge K. => The Motobrick Workshop => Topic started by: frankenduck on October 17, 2011, 03:18:38 PM

Title: Install a 4V center stand on a K75 or 2V K100
Post by: frankenduck on October 17, 2011, 03:18:38 PM
(http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk91/electro_handyman/Bike%20Tech/4v_center_stand.jpg)

This is what I run on my K75.  Why?

1) It's a better design.  Unlike the earlier center stand, it won't fill up with water, rust through and unexpectedly cause your bike to take a nap.

2) I haven't tried it myself but I've heard that this will also allow you to run a 4.5x18 3-spoke rear wheel.

Since both the early and later center stands use the exact same mounting bracket it will bolt right up to the transmission and you can use the same side stand and the side stand retractor mechanism still works.

(http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk91/electro_handyman/Bike%20Tech/k75F_tranmission_back.jpg)

(That picture shows a 4V side stand.  I later replaced it with a 2V side stand so I could use the retractor mechanism.)


Installation:

If you have access to a lift then you can just roll it onto the lift and clamp the front wheel in to keep the bike upright while you install it.

Another option is to elevate the center stand an inch or two off of the ground.  Similar to doing a spline lube, you can remove the L-Jetronic and battery and run a saw horse through the frame to support the bike. (Note that it might be a good idea to do this when you have the bike apart for a spline lube.)

(http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk91/electro_handyman/Bike%20Tech/K100_splinelube.jpg)


On my K75 (K75C frame with a 140/80-17 rear tire) it's not an issue but I've heard that on some bikes, due the 4V center stand being slightly shorter than the earlier one, that the rear tire may not fully come off the ground if you install the 4V center stand.  This is easy to overcome by installing some spacers between the center stand bracket and the transmission like BMW does on the K1100LT.  The BMW part number for these spacers is 46522312703. (You'll need four.)  Alternately, you could use generic washers or spacers from the hardware store.
Title: Re: Install a 4V center stand on a K75 or 2V K100
Post by: billday on February 05, 2012, 07:35:12 PM
I tried this today and found that the K100 side stand (which I wanted to retain, to keep the auto retracting) isn't compatible with the K1100 center stand -- they interfere with each other. So, I'm going to go with the 1100 side stand and see if I can remember not to ride off with my side stand down.
Title: Re: Install a 4V center stand on a K75 or 2V K100
Post by: frankenduck on February 05, 2012, 07:54:04 PM
Maybe you've got a bent side stand or something.  I've got it on my K75 and all is well.
Title: Re: Install a 4V center stand on a K75 or 2V K100
Post by: billday on February 05, 2012, 11:42:17 PM
Well, now I wish I'd taken pictures, but I didn't. Nothing looks bent or misshapen. The 100 side stand and the 1100 center stand just weren't friendly, they don't clear each other and they don't nest together when folded. I'd take a pic but now I've finished taking the two stands apart and putting them together twice, don't feel like doing it again.

It's OK, I like the look of the 1100 stand, it didn't cost me very much, and I don't care about the retracting side stand.

Just hope this doesn't happen to me: http://www.k11og.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=10316 (http://www.k11og.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=10316)
Title: Re: Install a 4V center stand on a K75 or 2V K100
Post by: Inge K. on June 17, 2012, 09:54:18 AM
The 100 side stand and the 1100 center stand just weren't friendly, they don't clear each other and they don't nest together when folded.
It's OK, I like the look of the 1100 stand, it didn't cost me very much, and I don't care about the retracting side stand.

If you change the bracket at the end of the springs, to part # 46 53 1 454 734, the sidestand would be
self retracting. Then the weight of the bike is what keeps the sidestand down.

Inge K.
Title: Re: Install a 4V center stand on a K75 or 2V K100
Post by: billday on June 17, 2012, 01:59:28 PM
Thanks for the tip, Inge.

I've been riding with the 4v center & side stand all season. I like the operation and the look of the 4v stand, and I don't miss the retracting feature at all. (For one thing, it's nice to be able to pull in the clutch for whatever reason while the bike's on the side stand.)