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TECHNICAL MOTOBRICK WRENCHING In Remembrance of Inge K. => The Motobrick Workshop => Topic started by: blackie1 on February 16, 2018, 04:07:47 PM

Title: spline grease
Post by: blackie1 on February 16, 2018, 04:07:47 PM

what does the learned panel think about this product to be used on driveshaft splines

Molybond® GA50 (Anti Scuffing Paste is a paste containing 50% molybdenum disulphide that gives protection against seizure, galling & pick-up on plain bearing & sliding surfaces. The product is intended for use as an anti-seize & anti-scuffing compound on metal parts which may reach temperatures up to 400°C. GA 50 has excellent anti-seize capabilities compared to other nickel & copper based anti-seize compounds & is extremely effective in preventing fretting corrosion in closely fitted parts assembled using freezing or heating techniques. GA50 can be used for mechanisms which may not be lubricated during service life. Applications: Heavily loaded slides or plain bearings, Splines, Door hinges & roller door gear drives. Temperature range -10°C to +150°C.

Title: Re: spline grease
Post by: The Mighty Gryphon on February 16, 2018, 04:35:12 PM

Should be okay.  The stickiness is the important thing so that it doesn't move away from where it needs to be.

HondaMoly was 60% molybdenum and it's replacement is said to be 70 or 77% moly.  That's the stuff that gets the job done.

Title: Re: spline grease
Post by: blackie1 on February 16, 2018, 06:32:56 PM

thanks Gryph

Title: Re: spline grease
Post by: beemuker on February 17, 2018, 09:21:51 AM

this stuff would probably work, Anybody know the % of moly in it?  might be expensive to ship to NZ? the link pasted really small



https://www.ebay.com/itm/1-Army-GMD-GREASE-MOLYBDENUM-DISULFIDE-G-353-Military-Surplus-1lb-Can-NOS/142266043274?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649 (https://www.ebay.com/itm/1-Army-GMD-GREASE-MOLYBDENUM-DISULFIDE-G-353-Military-Surplus-1lb-Can-NOS/142266043274?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649)

Title: Re: spline grease
Post by: Laitch on February 17, 2018, 10:31:22 AM

Quote from: beemuker on February 17, 2018, 09:21:51 AM

this stuff would probably work, Anybody know the % of moly in it? 

If high molybdenum content is the goal, this product doesn't have it. (https://qclubricants.com/msds/royco64msds.pdf) Never mind the cost to New Zealand or that the quantity is enough to lube all the BMWs in Christchurch for 100 years, if it were the stuff for moly addicts to use. See Section 3—from 5%–10% moly content.

Title: Re: spline grease
Post by: beemuker on February 17, 2018, 11:35:30 AM

so is this the stuff we should be using, it does not specify %. I'm assuming the 77 might mean 77% ?


https://www.amazon.com/Honda-HN-08798-9010-MOLY-PASTE/dp/B0083BWUYW/ref=cm_cr_arp_d_product_top?ie=UTF8

Title: Re: spline grease
Post by: Laitch on February 17, 2018, 12:09:49 PM

Quote from: beemuker on February 17, 2018, 11:35:30 AM

. . . it does not specify %. I'm assuming the 77 might mean 77% ?

I don't see the payoff in assuming stuff.

I have a 30 gram container of Staburags NBU 30 PTM which should last me until the cows come home. I don't even know if it has any moly in it but both BMW and Chris Harris recommended it, so I bought and used it. If I were to feel the need to buy moly-dense spline lubricating paste, I'd probably buy this (https://static.rshughes.com/wm/p/wm-asis/d87d6e2e2ab54f8a38ddadf15d49b56393fe5523.pdf?uf=).

Title: Re: spline grease
Post by: Martin on February 17, 2018, 12:13:01 PM

Blackie Honda moly paste can be had at Honda car dealers, and apparently Subaru have the same or an alternative. Honda motorcycle dealers tend to get carried away with their pricing.
Regards Martin.

Title: Re: spline grease
Post by: blackie1 on February 24, 2018, 05:17:32 AM

cheers Martin
i have committed to the Molybond® GA50


its in place now and bike is reassembled
am confident, or is that hopeful, it will do the job, very very tacky


and at the end of the day, if not perfect, certainly better than running dry


i will be keen to see if it has stayed where it is needed when i next pill things apart.
it was my first go at doing it myself and was actually very simple


it almost took me longer swap out the guts of the rear master cylinder. another  1st for me


all in all both procedures went well until i stupidly over torqued and snapped one of the small bolts that connect the right hand tragkorb attachment rail to the top of the foot rest plate.


had my torque wrench set to high and got fixated on waiting to here the "click" at the correct torque rather than fixate on good old fashion common sense


i guess now at least i will learn how to extract the broken bit and do it properly


at least it wasn't a vital mistake

Title: Re: spline grease
Post by: Martin on February 24, 2018, 04:14:53 PM

Blackie I wouldn't have bothered with putting in a kit into the master cylinder. A few inmates are now running Chinese ones, mine cost me $13.33 Au plus the price of a new hose. I've bought about five so far two for a mate and two for me one as a spare. An acquaintance came around the other day and bought my spare. So I bought another one. Mine has been on for coming up to a year with no problems as has the other two conversions. I still have a OEM cylinder with a new kit in it that I'll probably never use.  http://www.motobrick.com/index.php/topic,9364.msg90596.html#msg90596.
Regards Martin.

Title: Re: spline grease
Post by: lilau3 on March 01, 2018, 06:02:01 PM

I just got some of the Molybond GA-50 from Blackwoods. Not cheap so let's hope it's all good.

Title: Re: spline grease
Post by: woodgeek on March 01, 2018, 07:30:19 PM

I bought Loctite 51048 to use on mine.